07-21-2016, 12:06 AM
There hasn't really been any discussion lately, so I'll post a new topic here.
And note, if you like any of the characters listed here, no problem. If you have a good use for them, that's fine. I'm not bashing you for using them, I'm just posting my personal opinions towards these characters themselves and why they they are being posted here.
My Top 5 Worst Lords
5. Chrom. It's not that Chrom is a bad unit, he's fairly solid, But my main problem with Chrom is that, everything he does, Robin and Lucina does better. It also doesn't help his case that his promotion and reclass choices are kind of barren compared to several other characters.
4. Lyn. Lyn isn't actually a bad unit, but compared to what the other 2 lords get in her respective game, she's definitely an afterthought. Her speed is nice, until you realize she can't do any damage, and she dodges less than you might think. She's Light affinity, so she gains no avoid whatsoever unless paired up with proper-natured support partners, and even then, she doesn't even gain that much. And her support options are either pretty bad, or incompatible. Rath isn't being used, and even if he was, he's outpacing her with his mobility. Wil is even worse than Rath. Wallace isn't being used because lets be honest, Geitz is sooo much better. Kent and Florina, while good characters, outmobilizes Lyn. This leaves only Eliwood and Hector. Eliwood outmobilizes her later on, and Hector has far better things to do with his time than supporting with Lyn. Her promotion choice is also rather awkward, and her Infinity+1 Sword is probably the worst Legendary Weapon in the entire game. What keeps her from being higher on this list is the fact that she doesn't have the restriction of being force-promoted much later than the other 2 lords.
3. Leaf. Now we're starting to get into some of the real stinkers. FIrst off, look at these base stats:
http://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Leif#Fire...hracia_776
You CAN'T look at those stats and tell me he's not awful. But his awful base stats aside, the number one reason why he's #3, and not #1 is because he promotes somewhat earlier than you might expect him to, and he does reasonably well after promotion. And, surprisingly, there are 2 other lords that are worse.
2. Micaiah. Okay, put away your pitchforks, and allow me to reason. Micaiah always has two different factions: Ones who defend her with their life and bash Ike for being a Gary Stu, and ones who think she's the worst unit in the game and possibly the series. Now while she's definitely not the worst unit in the game, let alone the series, that doesn't mean she's good at all. I'm not pulling any more punches from here, but put simply, she's a mediocre character put in a game that punishes mediocrity. She's supposed to be a Tank Mage, and honestly, Tank characters are hit or miss. I enjoyed using Oswin, Gilliam, and hell even Hector because they also had a decent-ish resistance and sky high HP to stomach a magic hit if push comes to shove. Micaiah, on the other hand, DOESN'T HAVE EITHER OF THAT. She has very high resistance, yes, but what good is making her a tank mage, if her HP is garbage, and her defense is even worse? And don't give me the bullshit about how you can just give her Resolve, because LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE OTHER CHARACTER CAN ALSO MAKE USE OF IT TOO. She's the first mage lord to be introduced into the series, and honestly, I'd say she set the bar pretty damn low. But there is only one lord character who managed to somehow be worse than her.
1. Roy. Where do I begin. Ah, yes, mediocre bases, growths that do not help the mediocre bases, a terrible supporting cast, with his best supports often leaving him in the dust. AWFUL pacing, ridiculous promotion time (promotes at Chapter 21, giving you a whole 4 chapters before the game ends to develop him, only one chapter if you didn't bother getting the gaidens), and being a sitting duck for the rest of the 75% of the game. And since this is also a game that punishes mediocrity, he will be in risk to die in the later chapters. A LOT. And when he does promote, and get his Legendary MacGuffin, he's only barely usable, and several other character still outdo him by this point in the game. AND his Infinity+1 Sword won't last forever. 20 uses. He is the primary example of a bad lord.
And note, if you like any of the characters listed here, no problem. If you have a good use for them, that's fine. I'm not bashing you for using them, I'm just posting my personal opinions towards these characters themselves and why they they are being posted here.
My Top 5 Worst Lords
5. Chrom. It's not that Chrom is a bad unit, he's fairly solid, But my main problem with Chrom is that, everything he does, Robin and Lucina does better. It also doesn't help his case that his promotion and reclass choices are kind of barren compared to several other characters.
4. Lyn. Lyn isn't actually a bad unit, but compared to what the other 2 lords get in her respective game, she's definitely an afterthought. Her speed is nice, until you realize she can't do any damage, and she dodges less than you might think. She's Light affinity, so she gains no avoid whatsoever unless paired up with proper-natured support partners, and even then, she doesn't even gain that much. And her support options are either pretty bad, or incompatible. Rath isn't being used, and even if he was, he's outpacing her with his mobility. Wil is even worse than Rath. Wallace isn't being used because lets be honest, Geitz is sooo much better. Kent and Florina, while good characters, outmobilizes Lyn. This leaves only Eliwood and Hector. Eliwood outmobilizes her later on, and Hector has far better things to do with his time than supporting with Lyn. Her promotion choice is also rather awkward, and her Infinity+1 Sword is probably the worst Legendary Weapon in the entire game. What keeps her from being higher on this list is the fact that she doesn't have the restriction of being force-promoted much later than the other 2 lords.
3. Leaf. Now we're starting to get into some of the real stinkers. FIrst off, look at these base stats:
http://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Leif#Fire...hracia_776
You CAN'T look at those stats and tell me he's not awful. But his awful base stats aside, the number one reason why he's #3, and not #1 is because he promotes somewhat earlier than you might expect him to, and he does reasonably well after promotion. And, surprisingly, there are 2 other lords that are worse.
2. Micaiah. Okay, put away your pitchforks, and allow me to reason. Micaiah always has two different factions: Ones who defend her with their life and bash Ike for being a Gary Stu, and ones who think she's the worst unit in the game and possibly the series. Now while she's definitely not the worst unit in the game, let alone the series, that doesn't mean she's good at all. I'm not pulling any more punches from here, but put simply, she's a mediocre character put in a game that punishes mediocrity. She's supposed to be a Tank Mage, and honestly, Tank characters are hit or miss. I enjoyed using Oswin, Gilliam, and hell even Hector because they also had a decent-ish resistance and sky high HP to stomach a magic hit if push comes to shove. Micaiah, on the other hand, DOESN'T HAVE EITHER OF THAT. She has very high resistance, yes, but what good is making her a tank mage, if her HP is garbage, and her defense is even worse? And don't give me the bullshit about how you can just give her Resolve, because LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE OTHER CHARACTER CAN ALSO MAKE USE OF IT TOO. She's the first mage lord to be introduced into the series, and honestly, I'd say she set the bar pretty damn low. But there is only one lord character who managed to somehow be worse than her.
1. Roy. Where do I begin. Ah, yes, mediocre bases, growths that do not help the mediocre bases, a terrible supporting cast, with his best supports often leaving him in the dust. AWFUL pacing, ridiculous promotion time (promotes at Chapter 21, giving you a whole 4 chapters before the game ends to develop him, only one chapter if you didn't bother getting the gaidens), and being a sitting duck for the rest of the 75% of the game. And since this is also a game that punishes mediocrity, he will be in risk to die in the later chapters. A LOT. And when he does promote, and get his Legendary MacGuffin, he's only barely usable, and several other character still outdo him by this point in the game. AND his Infinity+1 Sword won't last forever. 20 uses. He is the primary example of a bad lord.
Show me your moves.
Formerly known as Magus.