Dual stat skills not activating

[MMM]

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(04-01-2016, 04:00 PM)Speedchain Wrote:

(04-01-2016, 12:27 PM)MMM Wrote: I think that all of these cases should be covered by the fact that the skill activation for dual stat skills is now 6 and the effect of Nihil has also been doubled on those. More testing may be needed to ensure that this is in fact working 100% correctly, but the cases you presented seem to be perfectly fine under the newest revision of dual stat skill activation. I suppose there's a reason those aren't publicly playable yet xD

You migth want to mention that on the mechanics page, because I read the page before I made this post and didn't know that.
The mechanics page hasn't been updated in a while sadly, lots of things are still outdated like Pavise as opposed to Parity saying "not available yet" ._.

My colossus activated against a nihil while it shouldn't have activated at all if you changed it to 6, because it was +5.
I was making some calcs with Chaos Knights today and I suspect it's probably the fact that it hasn't been changed for HP Dual Stat Skills yet, hopefully it will be fixed soon.

I don't agree with choosing to make to make it really hard to activate skills instead of actually nerfing them. Especially in unpromo +6 is a huge amount and will cause skills to not activate against units that have no investment in 1 of the stats (depending on the skill and units, of course, but it can happen in a lot of situations). There are also buff staves for some stats which gives their dual stat skills an unfair advantage over the others and some of the dual stat skills aren't even that good or are very situational.
This reminds me that I have never played with a Grace staff and thus couldn't test it WHICH IS KIND OF HARD WHEN YOU NEVER GET ANY OUT OF YOUR SHITTY TREASURES *COUGH*

Of course, we will need testing to judge it properly, but +6 just seems like a bit much.
I do hope we can get some testing done in the coming weeks, the thing that'll be difficult will be adjusting the skill activation so it works in both promos and unpromos.

Edit: How do twins work? Do they have a double effect like nihil?
I think they should but I can't be sure since I barely even use Twins/Emblems myself...